Kateo kromatično harmoniko izbrati

[Džoga]

Yes, I play the second counterbass with 4th finger sometimes in when I play compositions from Jovica Petkovic (Omer Beže, Oj Prijedore....) I use quite often 2th i 3th

Did u manage to play something

Now I need to figure out what dugmetara I need to get and it needs to fit inside my 2000€ (preferably less) budget

The only companies that I know that make them are Dallape and Siwa & Figli

Now, Dallape has 2 models it seams (Organtone 993A, which is quite common and prices are good) and SuperMaestro (which seams better, but I couldn't realy find a difference between theese 2 exept the price (more expensive then Organtone)

Siwa & Figli has many models, I like Super Quattro but finding one on used market is a challenge

Now Dallapes are a bit more common it seams on used market while I find Siwa & Figli more aesthetically apealing

Any more brands that make 6 rows (šesto redne) dugmetaras

Also any more used markets?
The onlything I know is
https://kupujemprodajem.com/ (for Serbia)
https://olx.ba/ (for BiH)

BiH is closer to me, so the best thing would probably be if I find something in Republika Srbska, which means I could actualy drive there and try it out in person

And yes, I am looking to buy the best accordion in terms of what notes I can produce with it, weigth is not a problem, since you can always workout more, its harder to get a new accordion if you find out that a song you want to play wants a diminished bass or is made for a specific register and your accordion does not have it

In your budget you could try finding old Siwa. I managed to play something but I dont have much time to record and send it. Be patient

[veso266]

Yes, I play the second counterbass with 4th finger sometimes in when I play compositions from Jovica Petkovic (Omer Beže, Oj Prijedore....) I use quite often 2th i 3th

Did u manage to play something

Now I need to figure out what dugmetara I need to get and it needs to fit inside my 2000€ (preferably less) budget

The only companies that I know that make them are Dallape and Siwa & Figli

Now, Dallape has 2 models it seams (Organtone 993A, which is quite common and prices are good) and SuperMaestro (which seams better, but I couldn't realy find a difference between theese 2 exept the price (more expensive then Organtone)

Siwa & Figli has many models, I like Super Quattro but finding one on used market is a challenge

Now Dallapes are a bit more common it seams on used market while I find Siwa & Figli more aesthetically apealing

Any more brands that make 6 rows (šesto redne) dugmetaras

Also any more used markets?
The onlything I know is
https://kupujemprodajem.com/ (for Serbia)
https://olx.ba/ (for BiH)

BiH is closer to me, so the best thing would probably be if I find something in Republika Srbska, which means I could actualy drive there and try it out in person

And yes, I am looking to buy the best accordion in terms of what notes I can produce with it, weigth is not a problem, since you can always workout more, its harder to get a new accordion if you find out that a song you want to play wants a diminished bass or is made for a specific register and your accordion does not have it

In your budget you could try finding old Siwa. I managed to play something but I dont have much time to record and send it. Be patient

Thanks for the tips (so much more options, although Dalapes are still the most common )
I read that Dalapes eat everything else for breakfast in terms of quality
You record when u have time, dont worry I can wait

What did u mean, if I want cheap models I should search for R.R
Are theese fake Dalapes? I read that there was real dalape from Italy, and there was Serbian dalape which were knockoffs or something

Doesnt Ručni rad usualy mean quality?



What accordion do u play, what do theese pictures in ur profile mean (I think theese are registers but not sure what registers)

PS: do u know of any other serbian songs, besides Prelaz kolo which are specificaly made for 6th row?

[Džoga]

Dallape is best when you play much gigs, its indestructable like Toyota Hilux or Golf 2
Yes those are fake dallapes but you can find some real good one for small price.
My accordion is Dallape Organtone 1958yr, I had luck finding because my model is the same that Jovica Petkovic, Buca Jovanovic and lots of professional musicians had played. Beside her I have also 5row Pigini 55b Senior Convertor for classic music.

[Džoga]

Registers in my profile shows my status in this Forum. When you write one message on forum you get one bass with 16bass you get one register with 48 another one with 80 or 96 another one with 120 another one and with 300 you are professional of the forum.

Of course there is much songs, like Ustala je majka rano, Tece reka tece gruza....

[veso266]

Dallape is best when you play much gigs, its indestructable like Toyota Hilux or Golf 2
Yes those are fake dallapes but you can find some real good one for small price.
My accordion is Dallape Organtone 1958yr, I had luck finding because my model is the same that Jovica Petkovic, Buca Jovanovic and lots of professional musicians had played. Beside her I have also 5row Pigini 55b Senior Convertor for classic music.

Hmm, how do you distinguish fake dalapes from real ones (if seller only lists Harmonika dalape for instance)?

Are there any differences in sound or quality?

Also what do I look for when buying used, what do I have to ask and test so I dont throw my money out the window? Since I dont yet know how to play, it would be way more fun to learn on something that works rather then something thats out of tune or broken and nobody knows how to repair in Slovenia

[Džoga]

From outside you can distinguish them on keyboard in first row on your right original models have 3 white buttons r.r have 2 white buttons. There are differences but theyre not bad as people tell.
I will write all the things that are common for originals and knock offs when I record my video with Prelaz.

[veso266]

From outside you can distinguish them on keyboard in first row on your right original models have 3 white buttons r.r have 2 white buttons. There are differences but theyre not bad as people tell.
I will write all the things that are common for originals and knock offs when I record my video with Prelaz.

I thats very interesting, I can spot R.R all around used market now

Never knew this: https://youtu.be/jJAxhA1nOtI?si=HEXg_CE_e2MUzJwz

Is played on Ručni rad (the sound is great to my ears), until u told me what to look for thanks

Also found out that some Dalapes are plain, while some have paintings on them

Not sure why some sellers dont tell u its ručni rad, do they want to hide something

Here are 2 examples I am looking at right now:
https://olx.ba/artikal/55039217/
https://olx.ba/artikal/55024055/

What did u look for when buying an accordion (I could write a message to the sellers and ask specific things, once I fugure out what 2 ask) I guess its very important if u can try it in person?

PS: why do u have one 5row pigini for classical music and one dalape for balkan music? Cannt u play classical music with ur Dalape?

[Džoga]

I'm so sorry, I didn't had much time to answer you. I will write you now what should you look up to when you try to buy accordion.

[Džoga]

So if you're looking for Real Original Dallapes you have few models, you have the most popular 993a, Supermaestro, Maxima A, Maxima B, Futura, Cathedral.....

My advice is to look for 993a. Now you have to find the right one, there is 993a from 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and again my advice is to look up for dallapes from 50s and 60s, because they have quality which even new ones dont have. Dallapes from 70s 80s are common and cheap because they are not good as dallapes from 50s and 60s.

So i told you to look the first three buttons, dallapes from 60s in the registers in bass must have 5 registers and above them sign ORGANTONE on the registers there should be black ribbon on every button so 5 ribbons for five registers, first and last one need to have 3 bumps. It has to have one register for chin and that is master in most of cases. The original bellow on old dallapes are yellow so if you see another one that mean that it has been repaired and that really good because those are bellows old 70yrs. Also most of them should have yellow basses so if theyre white they had also been repaired and thats good because you get good feeling playing on newer ones. Also on the side for bass you have Made in Italy No**(number of accordion) badge, not all of them has one but it would be good to have.

Thats all from aesthethics I think. On the inside if the seller allow you to open accordion you should immediately see No**(number of accordion). Then you can look the faseni, those are the wooden parts which holds reeds. dallape 993a should have 3 fasena outside and 1,5 or 1 in inside. You can look that if you want.

[Džoga]

I will send those videos as soon as possible about prelaz kolo and that stuff